Underscore vs Double underscore with variables and methods

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Somebody was nice enough to explain to me that __method() mangles but instead of bothering him further since there are a lot of other people who need help I was wondering if somebody could elaborate the differences further.

For example I don't need mangling but does _ stay private so somebody couldn't do instance._method()? Or does it just keep it from overwriting another variable by making it unique? I don't need my internal methods "hidden" but since they are specific to use I don't want them being used outside of the class.

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Solution 1 - Python

From PEP 8:

> - _single_leading_underscore: weak "internal use" indicator. E.g.

> from M import *

> does not import objects whose name starts with an underscore.

  • single_trailing_underscore_: used by convention to avoid conflicts with Python keyword, e.g.

> Tkinter.Toplevel(master, class_='ClassName')

>- __double_leading_underscore: when naming a class attribute, invokes name mangling (inside class FooBar, __boo becomes _FooBar__boo; see below).

  • __double_leading_and_trailing_underscore__: "magic" objects or attributes that live in user-controlled namespaces. E.g. __init__, __import__ or __file__. Never invent such names; only use them as documented.

Also, from David Goodger's Code Like a Pythonista:

> Attributes: interface, _internal, __private > > But try to avoid the __private form. I never use it. Trust me. If you > use it, you WILL regret it later. > > Explanation: > > People coming from a C++/Java background are especially prone to > overusing/misusing this "feature". But __private names don't work the > same way as in Java or C++. They just trigger a name mangling whose > purpose is to prevent accidental namespace collisions in subclasses: > MyClass.__private just becomes MyClass._MyClass__private. (Note that > even this breaks down for subclasses with the same name as the > superclass, e.g. subclasses in different modules.) It is possible to > access __private names from outside their class, just inconvenient and > fragile (it adds a dependency on the exact name of the superclass). > > The problem is that the author of a class may legitimately think "this > attribute/method name should be private, only accessible from within > this class definition" and use the __private convention. But later on, > a user of that class may make a subclass that legitimately needs > access to that name. So either the superclass has to be modified > (which may be difficult or impossible), or the subclass code has to > use manually mangled names (which is ugly and fragile at best). > > There's a concept in Python: "we're all consenting adults here". If > you use the __private form, who are you protecting the attribute from? > It's the responsibility of subclasses to use attributes from > superclasses properly, and it's the responsibility of superclasses to > document their attributes properly. > > It's better to use the single-leading-underscore convention, > _internal. "This isn't name mangled at all; it just indicates to > others to "be careful with this, it's an internal implementation > detail; don't touch it if you don't fully understand it". It's only a > convention though.

Solution 2 - Python

A single leading underscore is simply a convention that means, "You probably shouldn't use this." It doesn't do anything to stop someone from using the attribute.

A double leading underscore actually changes the name of the attribute so that two classes in an inheritance hierarchy can use the same attribute name, and they will not collide.

Solution 3 - Python

There is no access control in Python. You can access all attributes of a class, and that includes mangled names (as _class__variable). Concentrate on your code and API instead of trying to protect developers from themselves.

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