Get the last N rows in the database in order?

Let's say I have the following database table:

 record_id | record_date | record_value
-----------+-------------+--------------
         1 | 2010-05-01  |       195.00
         2 | 2010-07-01  |       185.00
         3 | 2010-09-01  |       175.00
         4 | 2010-05-01  |       189.00
         5 | 2010-06-01  |       185.00
         6 | 2010-07-01  |       180.00
         7 | 2010-08-01  |       175.00
         8 | 2010-09-01  |       170.00
         9 | 2010-10-01  |       165.00

I want to grab the last 5 rows with the data ordered by record_date ASC. This is easy to do with:

SELECT * FROM mytable ORDER BY record_date ASC LIMIT 5 OFFSET 4

Which would give me:

 record_id | record_date | record_value
-----------+-------------+--------------
         6 | 2010-07-01  |       180.00
         7 | 2010-08-01  |       175.00
         3 | 2010-09-01  |       175.00
         8 | 2010-09-01  |       170.00
         9 | 2010-10-01  |       165.00

But how do I do this when I don't know how many records there are and can't compute the magic number of 4?

I've tried this query, but if there are less than 5 records, it results in a negative OFFSET, which is invalid:

SELECT * FROM mytable ORDER BY record_date ASC LIMIT 5 
    OFFSET (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM mytable) - 5;

So how do I accomplish this?

Why don't you just order the opposite way?

SELECT * FROM mytable ORDER BY record_date DESC LIMIT 5;

If you don't want to flip back correctly in the application, you can nest a query and flip them twice:

SELECT *
    FROM (SELECT * FROM mytable ORDER BY record_date DESC LIMIT 5)
    ORDER BY record_date ASC;

...which turns out to be a pretty cheap operation.

This should work:

WITH t AS (
    SELECT * FROM mytable ORDER BY record_date DESC LIMIT 5
)
SELECT * FROM t ORDER BY record_date ASC;

If you don't want to use order:

select * from something Offset (select case when count(id)>10 then count(id)-10 end from something)

select * from (select * from log order by 1 desc limit 50) tmp order by 1